In this episode of Chalk and Code, host Theron Davis welcomes Dr. Tim Wiens, a seasoned educator and President of the Academic Advisory Board at Classic Learning Test (CLT). With decades of experience in innovation in K–12 and higher education, Dr. Wiens shares how CLT is challenging the dominance of the SAT and ACT, not just with a different exam, but with an entirely different philosophy.
At the heart of CLT is a return to classical education: reading great texts, developing analytical thinking, and connecting knowledge with virtue. Tim discusses how this mission-driven assessment model is creating space for deeper, more meaningful learning, and how it could redefine college readiness, civic education, AI in education, and the role of digital learning tools.
If you’ve ever questioned what standardized testing is really measuring, or what it should be, this conversation will get you thinking.
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Dr. Tim Wiens
President, Academic Advisory Board, Classic Learning Test
Dr. Tim Wiens is President of the Academic Advisory Board and Director of Christian School Partnerships at Classic Learning Test (CLT), which provides classical education-aligned academic assessments in reading, grammar, writing, and math as an alternative to the SAT and ACT. He came to CLT after a 33-year career in K–12 and higher education, including serving as head of school at three independent Christian schools.
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