In this episode of Chalk and Code, host Jennilee Bertrand sits down with Leonard Lafrance, President and CEO of NCLab, a Nevada-based company rethinking online vocational education for data analysts, Python programmers, and automation technicians. At a time when most online courses struggle with single-digit completion rates, NCLab stands out with nearly 100% learner completion and graduates who are genuinely job-ready.
Leonard shares how his background in software and entrepreneurship revealed a critical gap between credentials and real skills, and why traditional lecture-based learning often fails learners. At NCLab, he champions a radically different approach grounded in learning by doing real-time feedback, and gamified progression that builds confidence one skill at a time.
If you’re curious about why most online learning doesn’t stick, how vocational education can close the workforce readiness gap, and what it truly means to prepare people for work in a rapidly changing economy, this conversation is a must-listen.
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Leonard Lafrance
President, NCLab
Leonard Lafrance is President of NCLab, a Nevada-based vocational training company offering online courses in data analytics, Python programming, and industrial automation. NCLab’s learn-by-doing platform, built by a professor Leonard met as a SCORE volunteer counselor, has driven near-100% learner completion rates through hands-on practice, real-time feedback, and gamified progression.
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